Interviewer:
I am here today with Robert Green. It is the 16th of January 2015 [?] Central Station
in a local custody ahh so the next person you hear will be Robert. Robert,
generally how is your condition? How are you feeling?
Robert:
Well I am feeling in pretty good spirits actually, which is my normal,
hopefully, default way.
Interviewer:
Yeah.
Robert:
I was disappointed by the way things went on Tuesday because virtually
everything we had hope for did not come off.
Interviewer:
Yeah.
Robert:
But that’s the way of things and I have take it philosophically and
realistically which is exactly what I am doing.
Interviewer:
Yeah and telling yourself you are okay. You don’t have any, you’re gonna
continue, keep the faith for that.
Robert:
Well yes. Well, the point is now that, to a certain extent, what I campaign for
has come about now and despite the fact the opposition, the SNP government, and
I have to say great credit to Scottish labor. This is not a police clothes.
Interviewer:
No.
Robert:
It's the last [inaudible] trying to this.
Interviewer:
It was this sort of strange thing-- that whole thing.
Robert:
Yes. I think we should thank very much a grand PS [inaudible] the former
justice spokesman from Scottish labor because it was his courage and
determination that forced the SNP government to actually instigate the, the
review-- it starts actually few cases.
Interviewer:
Yeah, and do you think that include [inaudible]?
Robert:
I think it has to because I don’t, it can’t possibly be a case in which there
is more evidence supporting the victim and of course the victim she is. The
police have described DI [inaudible] and in ally and his colleagues described
Hollie in writing as a truthful witness and entirely innocent victim and that
is supported by all the experts who have examined, who actually personally
examined.
Interviewer:
Yeah and in terms of the expert witnesses like Jack Boyle you don’t have any
doubts about the validity of they are.
Robert:
Well how could there be, how could there be. Dr. Jack was also the (1:60) eminent
specialist in Scotland, Dr. Rivaldy too.
Interviewer:
Did you not see that Boyle was surprised they never got a call from Grampian
police?
Interviewer:
Carter, yes, and he is surprised. Did you not see that he was surprised they
never got a call from the police after?
Robert:
He was shocked until he got in to the police because we found his report in the
middle of the supposed thorough investigation that the police claimed which was
nothing of the kind of course and this should only a valid to the evidence
because it goes back to 1990 and obviously should have alerted the police to
the potential seriousness of it.
Interviewer:
Yeah.
Robert:
As I would say about it, [inaudible] is guilting to they flipping
investigated. Yeah anybody [inaudible] will be found innocent [inaudible]. All
I am saying is the police did not conduct an adequate investigation based on
the tremendously powerful, independent, expert witness evidence presented to.
Interviewer:
So in the essence, what we have here is the girl is abused.
Robert:
Yes.
Interviewer:
The evidence says, yes she was abused.
Robert:
Yes.
Interviewer:
She had been paid by the criminal and she.discovered [inaudible]
Robert:
Correct.
Interviewer:
She said the same names were the [inaudible] of them, of the same men.
Robert:
Yes, yes she has been consistent.
Interviewer:
And both in the present of another--
Robert:
With the presence of the police as I was a witness to.
Interviewer:
You were, a witness to that [crosstalk]
Robert:
Yes on the 8th of September 2009, yes.
Interviewer:
You even in room next door.
Robert:
Yes I was.
Interviewer:
In a safe house?
Robert:
Yes in Shrewsbury yes.
Interviewer:
And that is how you [inaudible] the hidden, you were in the police station--
Robert:
No, no because it is a sexual abuse case. They tend to take victims or alleged
victim we'll say to a house where it seems a bit more easy for them because the
police can commit a bit daunting for a person who suffered enormously and it
has of course.
Interviewer:
And the names that she recounted into the police?
Robert:
Yes.
Interviewer:
Which you were witnessed to but not let police enter the room. She hep through
the--
Robert:
Yeah, oh no, haven't before
Interviewer:
Obviously the same names [crosstalk]
Robert:
Oh absolutely and I think people should say even just a very flimsy catch from
the kitchen and the dining area and of course, because of Hollie’s hearing
difficulties, she speaks at a very high decibel level. So as I am speaking to
you, I could almost hear Hollie as well as(4:02) I am
speaking to you just a few feet away because she speaks very loudly.
Interviewer:
You didn’t have any problem packing up the names because I think when the
program that was televised, people find it difficult to understand that, that
the time--
Robert:
Well, I think they would. If you don't use because I am used to listening to
Hollie. I am used to listening to her. But if there is any-- but of course, we
did find the document later from Nicholas Smith, a neighbor, I'm not a charge
of charity in which he had said Hollie, because of her speech difficulties,
Hollie should have had an expert present to help her with her speech
difficulties.
Interviewer:
Yes, so she said something that keep quiet of it without live on.
Robert:
Yes. The police have failed to do that in 2000 when Hollie had first made her
allegations. So if the police have been warned by an acknowledged expert from
the most respected charity for disable in Scotland, that is what Hollie should
have been provided with at the interview. Then how was it in 2009 that the
police still failed to have someone that would’ve help.
Interviewer:
In terms of an-- influence Hollie, you have never really found that have you?
Robert:
No, no not at all. I have heard Hollie on road, on a home, and of course that
couldn't infrequently interview to place you should be and be interviewed by
[inaudible] upstairs in the room, in the room was DC Lisa Jane Evans of
Grampian Police was conducting the interview sitting behind them were a
social worker from Shropshire and also another West Mercia, they both all
women police officers and me. There was just Hollie through then four people
who could be.
Interviewer:
and you could be in the room next to [crosstalk]
Robert:
That is correct. That is correct.
Interviewer:
In terms of the case in general, have you ever had any doubts about the
validity or more concerned about the lack of investigation?
Robert:
It’s the lack of investigation but also of course, one has to say and I have
said this many times, I say it again, my opinion does not count for anything.
Throughout the campaign, I have (6:01) relied totally on the evidence of the
expert witness evidence. I don’t have any legal training. I don’t have any
evidence on the psychanics, psychologist. I have no experience about people
with down syndrome. I’m not a medical expert physically, I have no expert. I
have just gone on the people who are trustworthy or acknowledged experts like
Dr. Jack Boyle, Dr. Eva Harding, Dr. Paul Carter, Dr. Frances Kelly, the
forensic medical officer at Grampian Police, police officers IA Alley, and the
scene- the panel of the criminal compensation board and also Susannah Seymann
and Ruth Beckmann of the Down Syndrome Association, so all of those people have
totally supported Hollie. It is not what I think. I don’t know one way or the
other. I am just looking at the evidence as anybody else and shouldn't have the
cold shoulders.
Interviewer:
Do you feel that, in essence, people have said that you have been a legal
representative things or that to perhaps color the few--
Robert:
Well, I am not a legal representative. I am not qualified. I'm just here to
have- to help.
Interviewer:
Do you think people have done that deliberately to might be made it to work
out.
Robert:
I don’t know why people do certain things. All I am asking it’s nothing to do
with me, just look at the evidence. Look at the evidence from all the people I
have mentioned. It doesn’t matter what I think. It doesn’t matter at all. I
mean the only relevance I have to guess is that I actually didn’t witness the
interview with the police.
Interviewer:
And it has not-- it has really been a linchpin for thickness forward when
they didn’t investigate after that.
Robert:
Well of course because the evidence was so overwhelming. That's--
Interviewer:
We should understand why [crosstalk]
Robert:
There is no reason why they wouldn’t. There is absolutely--
Interviewer:
It's not really- it motivated you to go on as far as you have.
Robert:
Well yes, because quite clearly as, as we mentioned, there might be no one
[inaudible] we designed for having nominated for the 2015 Nobel Peace prize for
my work in this case and the author of it, whose name I do not know who is a
parliamentarian, said that one of the part-- the things is that as if (8:00)Hollie has been telling
the truth and she is described by the police and all the experts as a truthful
for witness, then count this children in the upper [inaudible] pass beyond,
[inaudible] size Scotland may be at risk, that is all there risk, but that doesn’t
mean the people are guilty at all. They could be all find innocent. And if that
would be indication of the police who conducted an adequate investigation, then
I would have gone away right from the start. What we talked to everybody, or
like computers. For whatever reason, we can’t pursue this. I said, okay it
sounds a bit, you know, the evidence seems strong but you are the police, you
have done the job. That’s it, I can’t do anything more about it.
Interviewer:
They said anything you have done definitely a campaign up to now because have
been doing that for quite a long time. is there anything you wouldn’t have
done? Is there anything?
Robert:
Not really. I mean I have to make a lot of decision for this [inaudible]. There
is nothing obvious that I would say that I would’ve done differently.
Interviewer:
Would you maybe not off-handed the leaflets to [inaudible] typical and they
know what you have done. You know obviously, great minds would continuous to
name people and in breach of the law, Scots law and he has not been
arrested.
Robert:
Yes, well this has passed because especially everything that thrown at you.
Interviewer:
So in terms of that, that does not surprise you that he hasn’t been arrested?
Robert:
Well it doesn’t surprise me, I mean because we are not talking about justice,
not about the law, but…
Interviewer:
No, but it seems like the Scottish government say they can pack you up in
England because something is said in England.
Robert:
Yes, yes that is right.
Interviewer:
They discrete one is what cannot be touched, yet [inaudible] people. Does that
not seem in congress?
Robert:
It seems in congress but a lot of things about this case or congress are
utterly irrational.
Interviewer:
Yes.
Robert:
There is no rationale with the police not interviewing people.
Interviewer:
Just going back. If you could go back five years and not wait to the people
infinite and just name the father and son, would you might be consider that?
Robert:
Ooh ah it is difficult one to say.
Interviewer:
Because you could be [inaudible] protection?
Robert:
No, but it is a difficult one to say because obviously, I (9:60) would look at
people viewing this if there was someone who was a danger to children or
potential danger living next door to you and the police said it was Jimmy
Savile or Sarah Smith and the police said never investigate. You’ve got
children living next door, would you not be, you know, and the police had
failed in that. And they are just like 'don't question around.' it's the police
failure, this is it to do more or less.
Interviewer:
Do you think that view has been directed from above?
Robert:
Well.
Interviewer:
You don’t think it is a systematic failure. You do not think it is a
politically motivated failure.
Robert:
It is difficult to know for sure. What we do know is Alex Salmond has broken
the law, 101 and 2)11 of the Freedom of Information Scotland Act, this was the
information they said [inaudible] commission made that ruling on 26th of May
2011. On the 11th of July 2011, the entire Scottish government as Mr. Salmond
and his Mrs. came within 24 hours facing contempt of court.
Interviewer:
Right.
Robert:
Right? For their failures.
Interviewer:
And how could we get away with that.
Robert:
Because the press would not report it and I can tell you now that two editors
whom I have spoken to have been threatened by Mr. Salmond’s lawyers.
Interviewer:
I see. And do you feel that that has been part of his goal to stop that note?
Robert:
Yes, yes and I do know, I think we have to trust this way just to get the
evidence about Hollie’s case, why has that not been, why are those Scottish
people being so [crosstalk]
Interviewer:
So looking at the way, that picture, would you seem as-- [end]
Gregory Remington was described as chief pornographer for the Clinton Foundation by his ex wife Tracy.
He arranged the abuse of babies, children and animals, the filming of it and some of the distribution of it.
The article on the abuser “Baby King” is on my substack blog. The Baby King – Gregory Verne Remington [2] This current post however is on my new wordpress cathyfoxblog 2 blog as it requires gallery feature as there are many photos. However it is not my usual wordpress blog, which has served 10 years and is nearly full. It is on my new wordpress blog, so please subscribe to this one if you want to be kept up to date. ie.
Since writing my “Baby King” post, [2] I have located the first two of whistleblower wife Tracy’s videos with Honeybee, exposing “child porn”. Those videos are on this post cathyfoxblog2 The Baby King 2 – Tracey Interviews with Honeybee[8] as well as Honeybee talking about it on Hagmann.
Further to that I have now also located a video copy [4] of the Periscope of Tracy, for which I previously only had the transcript [10]
It is considerably longer than I thought – about 24 mins, but much was not relevant, greetings etc. However there were a few points of interest that were not in the transcript and/or I had not grasped from the transcript.
My major wrong assumption, which I did say need more research was where Tracy was sent down (imprisoned) for shooting at her husband.
“I am the one that went down in that town where the satanic cult of the Clinton Foundation was headquartered.“
I mistook what she meant. Tracy did not mean New York where the HQ of Clinton Foundation is but meant the headquarters of the child “pornography” part of the Clinton Foundation in McMinnville, Oregon. This is where her husbands business was and where Tracy had lived for 18 years, married to the “Baby King” Gregory Remington. She is saying, I believe, that McMinville was a main base for the child and animal abuse material production / editing and that the local law enforcement in the area and the FBI all knew about it and were in on it.
The video is also worth seeing for Tracy-Jo’s passion as well as the couple of things that the abridged transcript did not cover, or I did not pick out.
As usual click on the photo for the video…
Odysee Tracy blows whistle on Clinton Foundation “Pornography” network[4]
Tracy says she spoke to Honeybee for 3 hours, and that Honeybee released at least 2 videos of/with Tracy under pseudonym Emma under the title “Emma – Married to an elite child pornographer”. These were the ones found and posted in my last post [8] . They were later withdrawn in 2018 when pedophile group Heart Progress were outing / harassing Tracy. Honeybee talked about it in the now recovered Hagmann programme. [8] Honeybee did also talk about releasing all 5 videos. I am not sure if this was done, more research needed if any diggers have some time.
Tracy says that half the upper floor was used as their home, and half as the business office. After confronting her husband about the “pornography”, she was imprisoned for shooting a bullet near him. When she came out (approx 2011) her young son had been involved in the business by her husband. He is now out of the sordid business, but Tracy also a couple of times mentioned that there was a murder involved.
Tracey mentions in the periscope video above (c.15mins) that Gregory’s McMinville Auto Wreckers business was burned down after his death. This I imagine was likely have been done to destroy evidence, although it cannot be ruled out that someone took revenge. Strangely I cannot find any mockingbird media information on the fire in a reasonable time via search engine, but they may well have kept it quiet.
Various photographs have been brought to my attention. I am not sure who took them, when they were taken, when they were put on the net, or even the story they are meant to tell. I will start with the easy ones. This is the McMinnville Auto Wreckers
In the process of burning down…
I do not understand many of the photographic references, perhaps because I am not a film /movie buff or perhaps as I am not American. If someone understands any meanings/ double meanings then please comment. I have no idea who the man is or his relevance if any, to the wreckage of the wreckers, or if it is just the message.
This one seems to have originated from Tracy, which is a key to understanding many others…
It states that McMinville Oregon was also known as base camp aka MAC OREGON aka headquarters – of the child porn, baby porn and animal porn.
Tracy says that Gregory Remington went by the nicknames Red, Ed, G, GR, Batman, Bruce Wayne and Dark Knight. The cop involved goes by the names M, Supeman, and the Hulk.
She said the FBI were involved, the Sherriff was involved and the network operates on the dark web via Tor and encryption of the “Batcave”, streaming live feeds [of child and baby torture and bestiality].
Tracy says the code words used were Mac and Cheese and Mac Daddy, Big Mac, Grand Mac, Mac Junior. Child abuse iamges were embedded within [normal] pictures and accessed via code words. Code words for the cop were marshmallow, m harsh, m mellow and peanut butter (pee nut butt her) and protein balls (pro teen balls).
I found out the FBI, the cops, the sheriffs in McMinnville Oregon were all a part of it. I’m praying to God that McMinnville Oregon, the cops, the sheriff, all of them that are involved will go down, because I know who you are, I know who you f***ing are, do you get it? He [Greg] was catering to the elite of the elite of the elite, ok? He was in with George Soros, Sony, Capitol Records, Sirius XM, all of these f***ing Satanic rings.
Dirty cops, satanic realm, child porn ring, connected to voodoo doughnuts which has the Mcminville cream doughnut. The moustache stands for the cops and the gay porn that they make, the cops have a porn gay ring that they make. They are raping children. c.17min
It appears that Gregory aka Baby King was also on Tumblr, perhaps under the name or group or name/group combination “hell resident pandoras boxcutter” where he talked and even mentioned his own name. Whether this was a distribution point of “porn” or just a discussion I am not sure. I have not searched for the tumblr.
Then my understanding drops dramatically. Some pictures are marked hell resident and tumblr and are presumably photos that were posted by Greg and maybe are recognition signs between members or even the “porn” was embedded in pictures like this? These are screenshots so will not contain anything.
Maybe these “cover” photos gave clues as to what was inside.
Now, moving on a bit and noting that Tracy states one of her ex husbands pseudonyms /nicknames was Bruce Wayne aka Batman.
Tom Hanks posted this on 2017 Jun 12 “Goodbye Crimefighter. And thank you. Hanx“
It references screenshots /photos of from telephone directories. (In Britain white pages was a directory phone numbers of individuals and yellow pages were for businesses. I am presuming similar happens In the US).
In the white pages it has a photo/scan of
“Wayne Bruce (Millionaire) Please Consult Crime Fighters in the Yellow Pages”
There is also a photo/scan from yellow pages under Crime Fighters, saying “See BATMAN – White Pages”
Batman was another of Gregory Remington’s pseudonyms.
Above and below the main two scans /photos are two more. At the top, West, Tom, and at the bottom Bates, Kim. By the Crime Fighters was an advert – “Buried in” ….[debt]?
Were they relevant to the message?
Goodbye Crimefighter. And thank you. Hanx.
Was this a signal to Remington that his usefulness was over, his death was coming and he was on borrowed time? He died 9 months later March 2018.
I say this, as there was speculation about the death of Isaac Kappy, whistleblower on Hollywood pedophiles. Isaac Kappy exposes Steven Spielberg and others and talks about Pedophiles in Hollywood[16] and Hollywood’s Starting to Crack Wide Open…[11]
Before Kappy died there was a strange message from Tom Hanks seemingly predicting Kappys death on Route 66. see Burners.me Mysterious Death of Isaac Kappy[3]
Now another collection of photographs. Again I am not sure whether these photos were all part of a message, whether there is an order, what the message is what this or whether these were individual messages or with embedded filth.
However that notwithstanding, there is a naked man with a batman mask on, seen simulating carrying a cross in field, digging a hole for the cross, being attached to the cross and then simulating/being crucified. Is that the death of Batman aka Gregory or a simulation to mock Jesus or something else? Does it indicated embedded porn?
Following the batman crucifixion there are batman (greg) depictions, one mentioning children. Then the hanx glove from Kappy times, and I seem to remember the SRC was relevant. Then I took a guess that the guy in the USA flag costume was Captain America but have no idea who the red/purple one is or if the messages mean anything. The girl in the white hat is Tracy, maybe from a time when she was part concealing her id. Donald Trump with a baseball bat, batman?
Voodoo doughnuts however I can help with. There was a survivor who blew the whistle on Voodoo Doughnuts in 2018. Whilst I have not researched whether those interviews with Lift the Veils Nathan Stolpman have survived, I have found the archive of Fiona Barnett’s post who wrote about it. The first post was when Fiona wrote about the interview and the outing of Voodoo Doughnut founder Tres Shannon as a perpetrator of child trafficking.
Fiona had a look at the symbolism. Some are obvious…
Some required a little knowledge but its fairly transparent child and baby trafficking and order service using doughnuts as code and cover.
There is School Daze (drugged schoolchildren) with Peanut Butter (as Tracy said pee nut butt her) , Triple penetration ( gang bang with child), Magic is in the Hole (anus/vagina), Baby Celebration Cigar Doughnuts – (baby rape), Diablos Rex – (for ritual). All delivered to your door in the Voodoo van. Top it off with founder being called Cat Daddy. Mk Ultra /Project Monarch sex kitten handler, complete with pedoswirl. To see the analysis see 2018 Aug Fiona Barnett Victim Names Voodoo Doughnuts as a Child Trafficking Front[5]
Incredibly, less than 48 hours after Fiona had posted that, Franklin Graham went to Voodoo Doughnuts and and tweeted himself with a box of doughnuts, and bizarrely saying “Take a look at these killer doughnuts!”
Fiona had been raped by Billy Graham, whose cover id was a Christian Preacher. Billy Graham – Pedophile, Illuminati, Luciferian and Monarch Slave Programmer[13] Within hours of Fiona’s post about Voodoo Doughnuts Billy’s son, Franklin, also a Christian Preacher went to Voodoo Doughnuts and then publicly tweeted the fact.
Voodoo black magik would not be something that a Christian Preacher would normally want to be associated with, but to tweet it publically and say something which certainly could be said to be interpreted as a death threat is bizarre.
Fiona hit back…
Franklin Graham’s tweet was deleted.
Why would a legitimate Christian preacher want to be associated with this symbolism? There is much symbolism, but nothing more blatant that Jesus’s crucifixion being mocked on a doughnut.
For more analysis see Fiona’s post after Franklin’s tweet. 2018 Aug Fiona Barnett Franklin Graham Supports Voodoo Doughnut Child Traffickers?[6]
That brings me neatly to the one of the doughnuts in the centre of Franklin Graham’s box. It is the McMinville Cream Doughnut! The Doughnut is for the McMinville police gay porn network. Tracy talks about it c.18mins in her video in this post. Is there a reason why this doughnut would be more of a sugar rush than the others?
Tracy has also tweeted a picture of a similar moustache on Carlos Danger aka Anthony Wiener, Huma Abedin’s husband. Tracy also says that FBI Head James Comey is a pedophile. He was the one who didn’t seem to be able to search Hillary’s emails properly!
The original post that I found the saved periscope video on, was from Timothy Holmseth. 2018 Dec 5 TCH Clinton Foundation child pornographer identified – whistle-blower warns public we are eating babies[1]. Tim’s been writing and putting his life on the line about child trafficking for a long time. I suggest those who doubt him go back to his earliest posts, start reading and learning, and stop listening to traffickers and friends of traffickers. Also I suggest they read this post 2020 Oct 13 cathyfoxblog Child Trafficking Part 2 Kim Picazio – Picaziogate [209] and this 2018 Dec 30 TCH Clinton Global ‘Fixer Attorneys’ named in Minnesota court filing – Executive Orders on international trafficking cite [7] to find out how bent the system is, and given that, how difficult it is to work around that.
Looking back 2018 was a busy time.!
I hope Tracey-Jo is well, love from all. This also raises more questions about whether Honeybee is alive and why her documentary was never released, and also whether Anthony and Heather are alive. Proof of life would be good. 2022 Sept 8 wordpress cathy fox blog Kids Inc.Where is the Movie, the Money and Honeybee?[15] What was Craig Sawyers role in all of this?
Timeline [some numbers refer to sources on blog The Baby King – Gregory Verne Remington [2]]
2008 Tracy-Jo discovers her husband was producing “pornography”. She shot past him with her gun, and consequently spent 16 and half months in jail. [1][1a]
2016 Nov 2/3 Tracy-Jo Remington, twitter @PantherEyez808 valuable archive here [2a]
2016 Nov 8 US Election that Trump won
2017 Jun 12 Tweet by Tom Hanks – Goodbye Crimefighter. And thank you. Hanx.
2017 Jun 22 Mellisa Honey Zaccaria had a conversation with Tracy-Jo about her husband producing child and baby rape material. [affid]
2018 Feb 21 cathyfoxblog Billy Graham – Child Abuse[14]
2018 March 15/16th Gregory Remington died of an aneurism in Oregon. [1][1a]
2018 Dec 4 Odysee Tracy blows whistle on Clinton Foundation “Pornography” network [4]
2018 Dec 5 TCH Clinton Foundation child pornographer identified – whistle-blower warns public we are eating babies[1]
2018 Dec 5 Tracy-Jo Periscope Video transcript by Dannielle Blumenthal [1][1a]
2018 Dec 5 Dr. Dannielle Blumenthal TRACY JO REMINGTON: PERISCOPE BROADCAST TRANSCRIPT, DECEMBER 4, 2018[10]
2018 Dec 30 TCH Clinton Global ‘Fixer Attorneys’ named in Minnesota court filing – Executive Orders on international trafficking cited [7]
2019 May 14 Burners.me Mysterious Death of Isaac Kappy[3]
2022 Feb 15 Tracy-Jo’s affidavit Received by Clerk, US District Court, Minneapolis, Minnesota
2022 Feb 16 Tracy-Jo’s affidavit Scanned US District Court MPLS
2022 Aug/Sept Jessie Czebotar affidavits revealed
2022 Sept 8 wordpress cathy fox blog Kids Inc.Where is the Movie, the Money and Honeybee? [5]
2022 Sept 12 Timothy Charles Holmseth Child Porn, Baby Porn and Animal Porn in US Court, Minnesota [6]
2022 Sept 14 foxy foxy substack The Baby King – Gregory Verne Remington [2]
2022 Sept 16 cathyfoxblog2 The Baby King 2 – Tracy Interviews with Honeybee[8]
Please repost my post if you think it was good. I have been banned from twitter and wordpress blog is suppressed. Add to that this is a new blog with hardly any subscribers I could do with the help, thanks.
I have managed to locate some of Tracy-Jo’s Videos in the Archive.
Please note ALWAYS keep records and publish urls. They are invaluable in finding articles and videos in the archives. This is one reason I keep extensive source/ link sections.
This post is blogged on wordpress as when I started this morning, I was going to post a post with many photographs ideal for wordpress gallery function. Also as my first wordpress blog is nearly full then this is wordpress cathyfoxblog 2 a new(ish) second wordpress one.
Two of these videos are from Honeybee. She obviously made 5 programmes from the 3 hour call with Tracy. Only two were released for safety reasons and on those released most of the names were redacted. (click on photos for videos)
2017 Jul 2 Odysee Honeybee “Emma” Part 1 – Married to an Elite Child Pornographer [8c]
This is the second with some newspaper confirmation of Tracy’s shooting episode. Then Tracy tells more of her story, but the names are redacted… (click on photo for video)
2017 Jul 3 Odysee Honeybee “Emma” Part 2 – Married to an Elite Child Pornographer[9c]
Tracy talks about what ping pong is, when a girl is in the centre of two boys. There were child abuse pop ups in Farmville, and pictures inside maps. Her son had become involved when Tracy was in prison. Tracy reported it to the authorities 4 times, and was ignored. A woman called Zeetle performed with dogs on a farm. She said that Mark Pincus of Zynga was part of the network. She also mentioned the Zettle awards.
Honeybee went on the Hagmann Report talking about Tracy, then pseudonamed Emma. Honeybee talked about a group called Heart Progress, which is a pro pedophilia group, which Honeybee was monitoring and attacking. This group was apparently researching Tracy and so as a pre-emptive move Honeybee withdrew the two episodes that had already been released and Tracy agreed to releasing her real name Tracy Remington. (click on photos for video)
2017 Jul 30 Hagmann Report Unveiling “Emma” & Naming Names – The Honeybee on The Hagmann Report[11c]
Honeybee mentions the documentary that she was working on but gave no details. She gives some codewords but these are a drop in the ocean – Big Red Baby, Baby King, Burger, Cheese Burger. She mentions Cynthia and Hugh Boone, and people in government, and medical boards, art transferred by diplomats. She says its far bigger than Podesta, Clinton.
Sony Records, Capitol Records, Sirius XM, pop up adverts containing child abuse images. Even separately to Tracy’s case then Honeybee had found Mark Pincus of Zynga, and Farmville was involved.
Also she says how the Fight Club movie is exactly how they work. The problem in taking these networks down is that FBI, Police and government are all involved in the pedophilia. They use Vault 7 technology and Cherry Blossom technology.
Honeybee talked about putting up the whole 5 episodes, so they may have been put up again. More research needed.
[8c] 2017 Jul 2 Odysee Honeybee “Emma” Part 1 – Married to an Elite Child Pornographer archive https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Emma-Part-1—Married-to-an-Elite-Child-Pornographer-bIj7cMSs_UI:4
[9c] 2017 Jul 3 Odysee Honeybee “Emma” Part 2 – Married to an Elite Child Pornographer archive https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Emma-Part-2—Married-to-an-Elite-Child-Pornographer-5f8q-gr9xQw:c
These are a collection on royal child abuse that Spidercat and I collected a few years ago and that she sorted and arranged and blogged. I have put alternative archive links for many that were dead links.
Unfortunately Spidercat stopped blogging and had her blog terminated so her links are dead. The Coleman Experience went private and so I have tried where possible to put new links to his archives.
The original blog was on the old wordpress editing system, before this new block editing system, so it was impossible to edit on the orginal post. So I have made a new post but they have not transferred seamlessly but adequately.
This post is also on a new wordpress blog for me – cathyfoxblog 2 [10] as my old wordpress blog cathyfoxblog 1 [9] has nearly reached the maximum of 3Gb.
Spidercat’s original blog archive Articles & blogs on Royal paedo-satanism & murder [1]
Jimmy Savile pedophile and 9th Circle telling Prince Charles what to do…
Articles & blogs on Royal paedo-satanism & murder
These first 22 links were on Spidercats blog. Being Scottish she loved the royal family so there are many pedo links on these articles of hers. All now archive links.
In this sort of case, when the blog has been taken private, then the archive will show private on the newer dated archives. Go to an older archive eg 2014 and replace each orginal link after the old core of the archive. Yes it takes time! . eg https://web.archive.org/web/20141001000000*/
Honeybee aka the Truth Fairy, aka Mellisa Zaccaria promised a movie about child abuse and child trafficking. Kids Inc was the name of the documentary and she had a team that raised money for it under that name.
HoneyBee styled herself as the truth fairy.
According to IMDB (owned by Amazon btw) Kids Inc. was a crowdfunded documentary.
Production Manager was Heather Middendorf
Director was Anthony Cadorniga (he also called himself co producer)
Executive Producer was Mellisa Zaccaria
Heather and Mellisa look similar, are they related?
Heather and Mellisa
Anthony Cadorniga – Liberty Columnist
We have been waiting years now for Honeybee and her team to release the movie, supposed to be released in 2018, then 2019, then complete and utter silence and disappearance of all three documentary makers.
What happened to the movie?
What happened to the money?
What happened to Mellisa Zaccaria?
What happened to Heather Middendorf?
What happened to Anthony Cadorniga?
The bottom line is they never came up with what people paid them for and they kept on saying they were going to produce.
In 2022 its beyond time to consider a few possibilities.
On March 22 2018 Anthony said on Hagmann that the documentary was almost ready [59a]
2018 Mar 22 Bitchute The Liberty Columnist The Liberty Columnist on The Hagmann Report | KIDS Inc : Battling CPS & Censorship[59a]
On Sept 2018 they discussed the documentary. I cannot find a copy of the video, it does not seem to work on bitchute or youtube. If you can find it please copy it and put the link in the comments.
2018 Sept 20 Bitchute Honeybee KIDS, Inc. Update On Film Release, New Trailer and Website! [52g]
In Jan 2019 Kids Inc tweeted [2b] that “Bee” was not MIA “missing in action” but that she and the team were diligently working on finishing #KidsInc… It is not known who controlled that twitter account.
Hi folks, Mellisa #TheHoneyBee is not MIA. Bee and her team are still diligently working on finishing #KIDSINC! The movie is still in editing and a team of legal consultants have joined the ranks. Please share. Kidsincdocumentary.com Kids Inc Tweet [2b]
In May 2019 Liberty Columnist, (usually Anthony Cadorniga) tweeted that they were all safe and sound and that the documentary was getting a restructuring into a series! [38] archive [3a]
People have emailed us worried that the Kids Inc team is okay. I want to reassure everyone that Mellisa, Heather and I are safe and sound. Documentary is undergoing an entire restructuring into a series. Thank you for your steadfast support and patience with us. #KidsInc
2019 May 1 Tweet Liberty Column that all was OK [3] (Penultimate post 2018 Oct 27)
Two documentary trailers were produced – an extended trailer of 6min 19s on about Feb 13 2018 and a “theatrical” trailer around Sept 2018.
2018 Feb 13 Liberty Columnist Kids Inc Extended Trailer: Director’s Cut 6.19mins Odysee [71] This was marked Truth Soup Productions.
2018 Sept Odysee Foxes Channel KIDS, Inc. Theatrical Trailer[29][1a] I suspect this is the trailer unveiled in this programme 2018 Sept 20 Bitchute Honeybee KIDS, Inc. Update On Film Release, New Trailer and Website[52g] although the episode no longer seems to be found on Bitchute or Youtube.
Honeybee also had a video or channel trailer on her video channel, unrelated to the Kids Inc. movie.
Honeybee also had a video or channel trailer on her video channel [45] now also uploaded to Odysee Mellisa Honeybee Zaccaria Channel Trailer[69]
By 2019 the trio, Heather, Mellisa and Anthony had mostly left social media, and people including film donors were wondering what had happened. Many people were worried about Honeybee [38] and wanted proof of life as they had heard nothing from her for over 8 months. Her last posting was on her Manifest 143 video channel on 2018 Oct 19 [57h]
Last appearance/ proof of life appears to have been on Sept 20 2018 Bitchute Honeybee KIDS, Inc. Update On Film Release, New Trailer and Website! [52]
The only posts in 2019 were the two tweet updates about the film on twitter from Kids Inc. and from Liberty Column. Whilst the presumption is that Anthony tweeted the Liberty Column account, I have no idea who controlled the Kids. Inc tweet account.
Since then nada, zip, crickets about the film/movie/documentary/docuseries…
Nowhere on their social media can I find why a movie has not been produced.
Timeline of the last posts on their fundraisers and social media – Chronological Order
Heather did have personal youtube and bitchute video channels which posted sporadically until Aug 4 2019. On the last she was called out in the comments about the movie and where Melissa might be…
The burning cross referred to a video that the comment was written under. This was the last video posted.
Perhaps significant was that Fiona Barnett called out Honeybee on Oct 6 2018 on her blog Pedophiles Down Under, now only on archive [67]. This was 2 weeks before Honeybee’s last ever post. Fiona said…
For starters, “HoneyBee” is an MK-ULTRA term that victims like me reeeeeally find suspicious. Melissa Zaccario chose an apt nickname because her role is to use sickly sweetness to lure us into believing the CIA lie that Craig Sawyer’s a hero. Hence the saying, “catch more flies with honey than vinegar.”
When Shurter [David Shurter MK survivor] outed Craig Sawyer as a fraud mid 2017, HoneyBee tried to friend him and convince him that Craig was a nice guy. She did the same thing to me a few months ago when I started outing Sawyer. I immediately detected her manipulative ways which did nothing but anger me and make me suspect her as a shill:
Fiona said in the blog post that HoneyBee’s Cousin was Andrea Costello Dagger and that she was Gambino mafia and referenced this tweet… [27]
Melissa Zaccaria is a member of the notorious GAMBINI Mafia Family who specialize in heroin trafficking and producing child rape material. Let’s look at what HoneyBee’s relative-by-marriage, Michelle, says about this fraudster:
“The Bee is the same chick that works with Sawdust. [presumably a derogatory name for Craig “Sawman” Sawyer] The dirt I have on Bee is that she is cousin to Andrea Costello Dagger (the woman who stole Michelle’s kids). Andrea is married to my first cousin Richard Heimburger. Her uncle by marriage is Dr. Peter Favaro of Port Washington, NY. Dr. Favaro is an internet legend. He created the first online game called “alter ego”. He is Gambino mafia originally from Howard Beach, NY. Peter Favaros cousin John FavarA lived on the same block as head boss John Gotti. One day while driving down the block FavarA struck and killed John Gottis youngest son. Not long after Gotti had FavarA killed. Peter Favaros family left for California and changed their names to FavarO. 25 years later Peter Favaro returns to NY. He hooks up with his cousin Dominic Gasparro who is a ny city administrative judge. They hatch a plan to start a fathers rights movement in family courts. Which is how they target many of the children they traffick. Bee knows this. Because that is what Gambino are known for child porn and heroin. The new generation of Gambinos are all highly educated especially with computers. Involved in the arts. Politics.”
Fiona also pointed out that the honeybee was an mkultra term.
My research shows the bee that Mellisa has used on videos on the left and the Merovingian King Symbol on the right. Interesting that both use dualistic, masonic black and white, both in a circle and both with similar open wings. Bees have wings closed along their back when at rest, not sticking out, so it is unusual.
Steve Outrimm, an excellent analyst, also mentioned Honeybee in a post exposing Craig Sawyer’s film finances.
I take back what I said then about the Honeybee,[when he had been complimentary] because she seems to have done the same thing as Sawyer – raised money from concerned citizens to make “Kids, Inc” a documentary exposing the horrors of the child sex trafficking industry, then years later there is still no sign of any documentary. from 2019 Sept 9 Burners.me 2018 Financial Analysis: Vets4ChildRescue[30]
What happened?
So its still a mystery.
Was Honeybee silenced for exposing child trafficking and child sexual abuse?
Is Honeybee alive? If so why was no proof of life provided?
If she was silenced were Heather and Anthony silenced as well or were they in on the silencing?
Are Heather and Anthony still alive?
Did they all do a runner with the donations?
Who was controlling the twitter accounts in 2019?
Why did they all leave social media?
What is the connection with Craig Sawyer? Did Sawyer befriend them and then silence them?
Has Craig Sawyer, Hagmann Report or anyone else investigated the filmakers disappearance?
Whilst the sums of money were not insignificant, ie $11,000 on Kids Inc Plumfund, and $500+ a month on Honeybee patreon, they hardly seem like the financial sums to totally disappear for, even if fraudulently obtained. Honeybee could perhaps legitimately say that her patreon was separate from the movie funding.
I have included many of their social media accounts below, some earnings and when they last posted, with links and archives where possible, as well as a timeline of some of their activities.
As the last virtual sighting was 20/21 Sept 2018 and this video was also about the documentary then if someone could find a copy of this video, it is of importance. ie 2018 Sept 20 Bitchute Honeybee KIDS, Inc. Update On Film Release, New Trailer and Website! [52] Last appearance/ proof of life.
It appears that Mellisa, Heather and Anthony have defrauded people of their money. The public and the funders need answers. Did they defraud people as they were killed, silenced or just for kicks or dollars?
Craig Sawyer
One nagging doubt I have is Craig Sawyer… Many things about Craig do not add up. Many think Craig Sawyer is part of the cabal.
Melissa was totally against Sawyer in April 2017, she even said Sawman is a Strawman. But by June she appeared on Hagmann with him, and by April 2018 she was filming an interview with Sawyer at his house. However the points Honeybee made, still remain valid and AFAIK unanswered.
Honeybee seems to have been convinced by seeing Sawyer take victims of sex trafficking into his home to reunite with their families, that he busted an IRS agent and helped bust dozens of traffickers in the past year, then c.2017/8.
I am not sure which interview on Tucson that Honeybee was referring to. However as well as following it at the time, I did a deep dive on the Tucson situation some 18 months later precisely because the situation was unclear, partly due to Sawyer muddying the waters by doing an abrupt U-turn, and then a concerted media campaign against Tucson being a child trafficking site.
Sawyer did not come out well. In fact he came out as duplicitous and keen to use his high profile to silence and ridicule others that he himself had investigated and supported. He even took down his own videos to hide what he had said previously. 2020 Oct 9 cathyfoxblog Child Trafficking Part 1 – Tucson, Child Trafficking Camp?[4]
Was Honeybee duped by Sawyer and then somehow silenced by him?
Was Honeybee a plant to start with?
Fiona Barnett also mentions Sawyer, as does Steve Outrimm who looked at the accounts of Sawyer and his film. We will look again at Sawyer’s film in a future post.
This research has taken much time, much more time than I had intended, as much information had to be found in the archives. If others could take it further now…to find if Honeybee and the others are alive and what happened.
Finally 3 items which may or may not be important.
This photo from c. 2016 with Craig Sawyer at the Twisted Metal event “Shoot My Truck” looks similar to Anthony Cadorniga.
Hosting Twisted Metal’s “Shoot My Truck” event, live, from Las Vegas![72a]
Similarity is no way a certainty, and it may well be a fellow presenter of the event or guest. More research is needed.
Who is Carl Alfred?
The Hagmann report writes that Carl Alfred is an integral member of Team Honeybee and Resolutionary Patriot.
Can anyone find a copy of this show and confirm who it is?
Just as I was about to blog this, I searched for first time using, new to me search engine Freespoke, which unlike all other search engines gave a possible result as Carl was involved in exposing child trafficking 4 years ago – Carl Alfred Youtube videos [74], but I haven’t found contact details for him.
Thirdly this affadavit, marked received US District Court, Minneapolis, Minnesota, 2022 Feb 15 but this copy unsigned, has come into my hands. I know nothing about it. It apparently was public domain and therefore I have not redacted it.
It involves Tracy-Jo Remington approaching Mellisa Zaccaria with many conversations of allegations of child abuse material produced by ex husband Gregory Verne Remington. Evidence was given to Pedophile Pentagon Task Force PPTF David Straight.
[David Straight I think has now been outed by other PPTF member Tim Holmseth as a cabal human trafficker, but I do not follow all the survivor and investigator disputes, I tend to get on with my own blog, so that could be wrong or out of date]
Mellisa apparently stated there was only one conversation between her and Tracy-Jo but the affiant [person making the affadavit] Tracy-Jo says there were many conversations, perhaps indicating Zaccaria not being truthful.
Now social media details of the trio.
Social media and Fundraising
Honeybee used to be everywhere on social media, a regular on the podcast/video show circuit and Hagmann in particular. Honeybee now appears to have totally withdrawn from social media, as have her colleagues.
Here are some links for her and her fellow documentary makers, some snapshots of her fundraising and social media and when she last posted.
[15][50a][55]Twitter Major presence. 23,200 followers. [50b] Twitter archives Last archived tweet was Sept 11 2018 from a Sept 14 2018 archive but then no archive for over a year when account appears to change hands.[50e]
[57]You Tube 2 Manifest143/Honeybee [57a] You Tube 2 Manifest archive
[57d] 2020 Jun 29 22,400 subs 900,443 views [photo]
[2a] Kids Inc Twitter 12.7 followerslast post 2019 Jan 8
[2] 2019 Jan 8 Twitter Kids Inc Doc. Not MIA arch [2b]
Here is a timeline of some of the trio’s activities. I was exhausted so some have pictures that have not been linked up with the links, which are found afterwards.
Timeline Kids Inc, Mellisa Zaccaria, Heather Middendorf and Anthony Cadorniga
2017 Voat April Honeybee criticised Sawyer see May 1 Voat
2017 Apr 5 MnR Productions TV
2017 May 1 Voat Honeybee at first strongly criticised Sawyer. This screenshot confirms the date.
HoneyBee explains why she thought Sawyer was a fraud
Second screenshot
However Honeybee soon changed her mind and within 12 months she would be interviewing him at his house.
2017 May 20
2017 You Tube Manifest 143 HoneyBee Channel Archive[5]
2017 Jun 7 Odysee Hagmann Report Making it Sting – The Honeybee on The Hagmann Report 7/6/17 [8a][28]
2017 Jun 9 Hagmann Report WE MUST ACTIVELY ATTACK PEDOGATE: DARK JOURNALIST, “THE HONEY BEE” AND JOSH PECK[41] Honeybee’s debut?? on Hagmann
2017 Jun 14 Hagmann Report TARGET, PEDO-AMERICA: DAVE HODGES,PETER CHOWKA,JOHN MOORE,LIZ CROKIN,CRAIG SAWYER & HONEY BEE [40] pre shownotes
2018 Steemit Honeybee Bloody Bourdain: Elite Suicide, Child Sex Trafficking & the Business of Young Blood [18]
2018 Voat Moderator Vindicator liked Craig Sawyer. He mentions Honeybees reassessment of Sawyer. Vindicator was a moderator who many thought coralled Voat Pizzagate group into the mundane. He would not allow anything that was “unproven” to his own satisafaction to be posted. That menat he had total control of censorship. He deleted articles of mine for instance that had one mention of remote viewing in a 3 page article. As I chose not to “prove” in that article that remote viewing existed, then Vindicator deleted. Ignorance /censorship won. Voat took off in a huge way after Reddit Pizzagate was banned and there were several Voat moderators who loved exerting power. See how long they lasted!
2018 Jun 6 A Childs Voice Premiere in LA with John Paul Rice Producer and Director Edgar Bravo [17]
2018 jun vids ?
2018 Jul 16 [17] Plumfund Crowdfunding Kids Inc Documentary Last Post
2018 Sept 11 [50a] Honeybee Twitter last archived post but no archives
2018 Sept 20/21 Bitchute Honeybee KIDS, Inc. Update On Film Release, New Trailer and Website! [52g] No longer on Bitchute or Youtube, cannot find on archive.
2018 Sept 20 [52] Bitchute Honeybee KIDS, Inc. Update On Film Release, New Trailer and Website! Last appearance/ proof of life.
2018 Sept Odysee Foxes Channel KIDS, Inc. Theatrical Trailer [29][1a]
I suspect this is the trailer unveiled in this programme 2018 Sept 20 Bitchute Honeybee KIDS, Inc. Update On Film Release, New Trailer and Website [52g] although the episode no longer seems to be found on Bitchute or Youtube.
2018 Oct 6 Pedophiles Down Under HoneyBee DM archive [26]
2018 Oct 6 Tweet saying HoneyBee’s Cousin is Andrea Costello Dagger and that she is Gambino mafia. [27] from Pedophiles Down Under [26]
2018 Oct 19 [57h] You Tube 2 Manifest143/Honeybee archive pic Last post
2019 Jan 8 Twitter Kids Inc. Doc HoneyBee not MIA[25][2][2b]
Hi folks, Mellisa #TheHoneyBee is not MIA. Bee and her team are still diligently working on finishing #KIDSINC! The movie is still in editing and a team of legal consultants have joined the ranks. Please share.
c. 2019 Jan Trailer KIDS, Inc. Theatrical Trailer [1]
People have emailed us worried that the Kids Inc team is okay. I want to reassure everyone that Mellisa, Heather and I are safe and sound. Documentary is undergoing an entire restructuring into a series. Thank you for your steadfast support and patience with us. #KidsInc
2019 archive of Kids Inc Documentary site [9] main page
I take back what I said then about the Honeybee, because she seems to have done the same thing as Sawyer – raised money from concerned citizens to make “Kids, Inc” a documentary exposing the horrors of the child sex trafficking industry, then years later there is still no sign of any documentary.
[3] 2019 May 4 Twitter Liberty Columnhttps://twitter.com/LibertyColumn/status/1124705634660884481 People have emailed us worried that the Kids Inc team is okay. I want to reassure everyone that Mellisa, Heather, and I are safe and sound. Documentary is undergoing an entire restructuring into a series. Thank you for your steadfast support and patience with us. #KidsInc screenshot
Our daughter Lynette [pseudonym] was an Aspergers who largely beat the odds. While many in her state never graduated from high school or worked, she went to two universities, graduated with a psychology degree, then converted to computer science. Her skills were amazing, and eventually, she moved out of the house into her first apartment. After two apartments, she then purchased a condominium and even worked for a Fortune 500 company.
Eventually, she moved to Utah, and worked for several companies in IT. Her attitude began to change to one of frustration, and even anger on many occasions, though. Discussions began turning into arguments. Having said that, she kept in touch on a regular basis, so we knew she was okay. However, she began showing a reluctance to give out information, a photo of where she lived, etc. When we discussed visiting, it always seemed as though something came up. One time we even were finalizing trip plans, only to discover she was planning on flying to Dallas at the same time.
With her frustration and company cut-backs, she became a casualty, which started some job bouncing, as many employers cannot understand Aspergers when they aren’t informed of their characteristics. As she delved into other areas such as property management, her job changes grew, as well as some despair.
When we retired, one of our goals was to see our daughter (i.e. long trip). The phone rang one late morning, informing us a security company had us as the emergency number. We immediately called our daughter to inform her of the issue (not critical), but nobody answered. Therefore, we texted her, only to receive a curt non-descript response. I called again—still no answer, and now the calls began to go to immediate voicemail. We wrote her an email, only to get another short non-descript response, which was extremely uncharacteristic. After this continued on and on, we finally decided to drive to Provo. And the trip was long, very interesting, and we finally became excited as we approached the city, thinking everything could be resolved.
Arriving in Provo, we found her condominium, only to discover it with open blinds, looking somewhat stripped apartment with only some clothes and kitchen utensils left. But no daughter was there. Where is she? Neighbors hadn’t seen her in months. We then called numerous times, but every call was immediately forwarded to voice mail, which was full. Texting went unanswered. So, we finally went to the police and put her on a missing person’s report and asked for a welfare check, with the officer telling us he would do everything he could to find her.
Not hearing anything from her phone, text, or the police, we contacted NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness), who offered some moral support. And then we finally left, not knowing what to do. Have you ever been at a point, where a topic takes over 24/7? Yes, we weren’t perfect parents, there were some arguments, but there was certainly no abuse, and we had loved and supported her throughout her life. Gone?
Returning to our home, we decided to hire a Private Investigator, who ran his checks and came up with nothing. And the officer that was dedicated to finding the truth? He sent another officer to her location after texting from the police department and came away stating “she had a mask on” but everything was fine. Now we began searching for her, looking into e-mails, phone calls, LinkedIn, and even tried to triangulate the cell phone address. We then found an anti-human trafficking private investigator who had spent years in this realm and offered hours of advice. And yes, we took notes, focusing upon 3 areas: mind-control from our government, a Mormon cult, or the Scientologist group. Were any of these involved? No idea.
Fast forward and long trip Number 2 occurred, this time with us tracking her down at a store where she worked. Mind you, this took quite a bit of work, time, and effort to get to this point. We wanted to focus on three aspects: is she okay, where is she living, and is someone controlling her? As I finally approached her in Salt Lake City, I wondered would she respond as a long-lost daughter loving to see her father, or would it be fear? Right or wrong, I tried to downplay the key moment by asking her what would she recommend with this potted plant? She immediately realized who I was, and without saying one word—raced away. Bottom line is she looked like a zombie robot, with no life in her face. Having read extensively about mind control, she appeared to have every symptom. Seeing me appeared to be a “trigger” and she was abjectly, afraid of me. I then watched her leave and tracked her until she got on the commuter train. There simply was no way to get on the train in time to catch her. Where is she living?
I then began looking into Mormon and Scientology cults—could they be the culprit? Why? As I went to the police, I was immediately told there was really nothing they could do. The responses seemed very programmed to accept this situation, with the police essentially pointing the finger at the justice department. Perhaps that really is true, but the attitude didn’t pass any smell test for truthfulness in the least. Would I trust the Utah State Police? No. Then I went to the college, who took notes, and seemed very cooperative while we were there. Later, the e-mail came through, essentially stating nothing could be done, she is an adult, and therefore none of this is our business. And the question regarding whether our daughters was on drugs was simply ignored.
A handful of e-mails and texts were answered by Lynette, but the response was similar to a program. Nothing in her responses sounded like her, including the vernacular and even spelling. Was it another individual answering that controlled her? This did not sound like our daughter. She even mentioned being curious about walking in the snow in Provo. Mind you, that was Provo, Utah and she had lived there for close to six years and hadn’t walked in the snow? If you know Provo, that is an absolute impossible answer that made no sense.
So I now did my own research and came up with DID option (Dissociative Identity Disorder). Translated, this means some form of trauma has occurred and an alternative personality has come to life. What happened and why? Basically, this is a coping mechanism (i.e. Multiple Personalities), and essentially creates a “new you.” This might explain living in Provo and never having experienced walking in the snow. Her vernacular was new also, indicating something isn’t right. We also discovered she had a newfound interest in kickboxing. Mind you, this is coming from a girl who used to run from the soccer ball. When we saw her in Salt Lake City, she had gone from a pretty, competent young woman working IT for a fortune 500 company to rather unkempt, watering flowers for a living. I contacted the few friends I knew she had, only to discover she didn’t maintain any substantive correspondence.
And then we began looking into the liens to see—is money involved? This gets complicated, especially since personal loans aren’t seen. We’ve discovered many aspects about her never known, including pictures, friends, family members, and online data. But if I am correct regarding mind control, then this gets into how to deprogram—very difficult. I’ve now read around five mind control books, critiqued numerous websites, and it is simply horrifying. Svali, Cathy O’ Brien, and Cathy Fox were three great revelations, and then I began looking into patents related to mind control. The rabbit hole got deeper and deeper with drugs/hypnosis going to satellite and human addresses.
Lynette had worked for a contractor with the Marine Corp. When one delves into mind-control, it gets downright scary. One quick example was a test done a long time ago to see how easily people could be modified. A straight-forward lady with good moral values was drugged/hypnotized and then carried out a simulated attack when requested. Translated, an every-day individual under the right circumstances could have their behavior modified, even if temporarily. Remember, that our daughter worked in IT related to security. Did something occur? The timing seems to coincide…
As I delved into the people search services, I began unraveling other aspects such as other phone numbers, e-mails, social media, and addresses. One address that came up was First Step in SLC (Drug Treatment Center). Our daughter was never involved with illegal substances, yet First Step was showing up? That group correctly guards their information, so we haven’t approached them. But what led to this? Did she attend for collegiate purposes, or did she enter as an individual with a drug addiction?
I keep going back to the face of abject terror. My God, why? And some “helpful groups” weren’t helpful. My “expert friend” believes it is most likely one of the cults—but we don’t really know. Where is she? Now I honestly have a better understanding of how many grasp losing loved ones that simply vanish, never to be found. And many of the agencies meant to assist—don’t. Have you ever seen a post office box used for the home address of where you lived on her student registration? Really?
Have you ever gone to bed night after night, going to sleep, yet always worried as to where is your child and what in the world happened to her? We’ve had many, many discussions, tears, and “why” discussions. We re-trace the past communication, but as most know, the mind can become an absolute nightmare with every horrific possibility being discussed. This emotional nightmare never really ends. Now we at least have an idea regarding “lost” people who vanish and the dramatic impact it truly has. We do use prayer, though, and ironically are finding peace and a relationship to God we never knew.
Yes, we do have plans and ideas, but they will take time and money, with no guarantees. We’re on our own, and she is gone—somewhere.